Meeting & Agendas

ARCHITECTURAL & ENGINEERING COMPUTER AIDED DESIGN Committee Minutes ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING Meeting Date: February 20, 2007 I. Welcome and Introductions A. Attendance a. Present: John Tiede, Victor Casteneda, Frank Toto, John Glock, Don Fletcher, Matt Strickland, Doug Smith, Tony Ramirez, Ashleigh Fuller, Elain Dalton, Jeffrey Briseno, Linda Smarzik, Erlene Clark, Chris Hilton (came late). B. Each person introduced themselves and described their backgrounds. C. Meeting was called to order promptly at 4:30pm by Doug Smith and John Tiede. II. Departmental Overview A. Discussion of Annual Enrollments (approx 1100 YTD) and budget B. Autodesk Training Center tuition collected– YTD $136,335 a. Previous years - 2006: $217,965; 2005: $144,873 b. Monthly average - $24,879 c. Forecast for 2007 - $298,549 C. Autodesk Training Center Enrollment is 182 YTD. a. Previous years – 2006: 336; 2005: 225 III. Discussion of Proposed Curriculum Changes A. Industry Needs for Civil – Victor Casteneda stated that there are fewer engineering students graduating from 4 year institutions creating a need for technicians. Graduates with 2 year degrees, should receive design training on new, more powerful CAD software packages that are coming into the market. They are looking for students to have AutoCAD, Civil 3D, land development desktop and GEOPAC software packages. B. Proposed 1493 Advance Civil Class – Discussed Autodesk changing industry and that exposure to Civil 3D and being able to do design work will make the students more marketable. He said that with the new tools skill set, a student is expected to be more of a designer able to use Civil 3D. C. Market and Demand for Students with Civil Background – Jeffrey Briseno related a story about how his skills forced his company to create a new position rather than lose him to competition. Ashleigh – 3 companies called today about Civil, 2 asked for companies on Civil and 1 about advanced (Civil 3D). Victor/Jeff – Both agreed that with the class the students will be very marketable by including this certificate. D. Developing Designers - Because of the blurring of the lines between Engineering and designers, the demand for students coming out this program able to understand design issues will change the curriculum for the current Civil class as well. E. Education sufficient – Victor showed some concern with students leaving after 4 classes with a certificate who may not have math and writing skills. John Tiede, related a story about many of the students that enter the A&E CAD program already hold 4 year degrees up to PhD’s. This certificate would be in conjunction with the Architectural curriculum and would allow people in Land surveying or currently working individuals to increase their knowledge and skill sets. F. Saturday Class – Tony, remarked that the president of the college has been pushing for weekend classes. By allowing professional people to obtain a certificate after 4 classes. G. Level 1 Certificate – This would only take 4 classes to complete, and there is a chance of changing it to Level 2 and possibly a degree plan. IV. Vote on Curriculum Changes A. John Tiede, Committee Chair, initiated a vote for Curriculum change. a. The vote was unanimous in favor. B. John Tiede, Committee Chair, initiated a vote for Level 1 Certificate. a. The vote was unanimous in favor. V. Survey of Committee Members on Industry Trends A. Survey Results: a. What is the Principal focus of your organization or industry? i. Optimize test and measurement systems, namely through the advent of Virtual Instrumentation. ii. ACC: Civil Drafting, Dftg 2430; Loomis: Civil Engineering, land planning, surveying. iii. Architecture, Parking Consult, Primary building type is Parking Garages. iv. Civil Engineering b. How many employees in your organization use CAD Tools? (If you don’t know the exact number, please estimate how many.) i. Loomis: 15 ii. 7 iii. 400 (300 Eng. & 100 Technicians) iv. ~500-600 c. What are the job titles of employees using CAD in your organization? i. PCB, Mechanical Drafter, Staff Drafter, Mech. Engineer ii. EIT, Survey tech, Designer, CAD tech iii. CAD Tech, Project Manager, Project Designer iv. Technician, Engineering Technician, Designer, Technical Coordinator, Technical Specialist. d. What CAD Software package(s) does your organization and industry use? i. AutoCAD 2007, Pro/E Wildfire 2.0 ii. Autodesk land development desktop, Civil 3D, AutoCAD, Autoturn, Microstation, Geopak. iii. Architectural Desktop 2006 iv. ACAD, Microstation e. What trends do you see in Engineering Graphics/CAD that the A&E CAD Department will/may need to respond to in the foreseeable future (up to five years if possible)? i. None as of yet ii. Autodesk is phasing out land development desktop and pushing the implementation of Civil 3D. This requires the traditional “CAD Tech” to become more of a designer” in order to utilize the full range of the software capabilities. iii. Add Revit to the Architectural Degree Program. iv. Design Criteria/Concepts/Skills, Advanced 3D Design Software (ACAD Civil 3D). f. If your organization has hired A&E CAD Students (since the last advisory meeting), what is you assessment of the skill levels of these individuals when they were initially hired? What could be improved? i. First time member. ii. N/A iii. N/A iv. Adequate / Average Skills, Civil Knowledge (Advanced) VI. Adjourn A. Formal discussion were ceased at 6:00pm